Friday 16 September 2011

Whats Wrong and How much!!!???

Within the last week i have noticed that sometimes when i brake something grinds like metal on metal. The same noise appears when i put full right lock on and drive off. Its very disconcerting as you can imagine. How much does it cost to change both front pads and shoes including labour on a ford focus Zetec 2003????Whats Wrong and How much!!!???Depends on the garage and quality of parts, and the area you are located. If they are grinding, then you will most likly need pads (for sure), rotors (for sure), and calipers (most likly). The pads sound like they are toast, the rotors probably wont be able to be salavageable because once grinding is present, the rotor wears down quite fast and they get to the discard point very fast. I would personally do calipers because seals can become damaged by being stretched too far and if there is any corrosion on the piston you can damage the internal squair cut o-ring.



My biggest question is, Didn't you hear the squealing? Thats a squealer tab and is there to tell you the pads are low and need to be changed.



As for costs, prices will very from place to place, the quality of parts, the cost of labour, and the extent of damage. It may not even be the brakes, most likly it is, but there can be other things in the systems causeing it. Take it to a brake shop, dealer, garage, ect and have a FULL brake inspection preformed, and anything that needs to be done, do it. I see people go cheap on brakes, and are always asking me %26quot;Do I really need these parts?%26quot;. The only answer I can give them is %26quot;Do you want to stop, or do you want to slow down?%26quot;.



I have done brake jobs on vheicles that have been $100, brake flush only for maintance, and all the way up to a full 100% brake system, caused by oil in the brake system, Every part of the brake system needed to be changed, and the brake pads and shoes were low so thoes were changed too, that was nearly a $7000 job because of the abs, and that was on a common vehicle too. usually a base price at my shop in CALGARY CANADA is $200 for pads, labour, and the initial inspection, some are less as a base, some are more. My shop rate is $92/hour. With rotors, average $400 for parts, labour, inspection, and with calipers, $700 parts, labour, inspection. It all depends on the car, and what is needed to do the job correctly.



And before people start crawling all over me for the prices I gave. NOT EVERY SHOP USES LOW QUALITLY PARTS. The parts my shop uses are gaurenteed to be better then OEM if available, and they can get pricy at times. When it comes to brakes, CHEAP parts are not good, go for Quality, not cost. Buy the best you can afford.
Whats Wrong and How much!!!???
Right mate, i had a peugeot 306 and just last year i had to change the pads and the shoes.. it cost me just under 拢200 including labour. THis is a P reg (1996) peugeot.. the bad thing was that, it still didnt make much difference to the braking!

good luck.. best thing is to look around your local garages and shop about!!
Whats Wrong and How much!!!???
It will be about 拢35 pounds for the pads and about 拢45-拢55 for labour, just watch out for the gargae telling you to replace the discs at the same time (only let them do it if they have a rim on the edge of them that you can catch your finger nail on if you run your nail from the centre of the disc to its edge
what you are hearing is that sound of the metal backing of where your brake pad were grinding on the rotors. you are looking at $300+ in parts and labor to replace both rortors and new pads.
If it's just brake pads, then I would say you could get out of it around $100. There is a good chance it's the rotors too, so you can add at least another $100 for that.

The noise could be either the wear indicator, which is a little piece of tin that rubs the rotor to make a lot of noise to remind you to change the pads, or it's the actual rivits that hold the brake pad onto it's mount. If it's the former, then it's just the pads, if it's the latter, your rotors/drums are probably shot.

The reason you hear it at full right lock is that you are probably doing that right after backing up. Drums readjust themselves to account for wear when you back up, so some metal on the shoes is lightly rubbing the drum, which is actually louder than mashing them into the drum when you brake.
A shop will charge you like 69-100 dollars.
metal to metal contact invariably means the disks will be damaged patern ones are the cheapest option though they wont last more than two mot's there is also the risk of the caliper piston coming out if the remains of the brake pad wear down sufficiently to enable it to jump out
Best thing to do is give your local ford quick fit centre a call, surprisingly they will be as cheap as anywhere.



Don't use the main ford dealer workshops though
Do it yourself if you have basic mechanical knowledge. A set of front pads should cost about 拢30.

PS .... Been repairing my own cars for the past 40years.I could make a fortune if I started in car repairs!